에란겔과 미라마 9000게임의 엔드서클 비교

출처 - https://amp.reddit.com/r/PUBATTLEGROUNDS/comments/8iercr/final_circle_heatmaps_from_about_9_000_games/

2018년 5월 10일에 올라온 글이다. 

언제 다 번역해서 읽어볼 수 있을까?

Final circle heatmaps from about 9 000 games 

약 9000게임의 마지막 서클 히트맵

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Leamashakner • May 10, 2018, 2:00 PM

레아마샤크너

Interesting that erangel seems to be more or less random other than avoiding borders mostly. But Miramar quite clearly favours towns. I mean look at prison shit.

흥미롭다. 에란겔은 더 혹은 적게 랜덤하게 보인다. 외곽을 더 피하는 것 외에는. 하지만 미라마는 좀 명확하게 타운을 선호한다. 감옥을 봐봐.

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bizzfarts • May 10, 2018, 2:17 PM

비즈파르츠

Custom games give you options to weight the circle towards certain types (Mountain, Field, Town.) It looks like they cranked up town circles for Miramar.

커스텀 게임이 너에게 서클이 저런 타입 (산, 들판, 타운)으로 향하는 가중치를 조절하는 옵션을 준다. 그들이 미라마에 대해서 타운 서클을 가동한 것처럼 보인다.

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Falloutguy100 • May 10, 2018, 9:31 PM

폴아웃남

Wish they would do that in Erangel. Tired of the snakes hiding in bushes.

에란겔에도 저걸 해주길 바란다. 덤불에 숨어있는 뱀은 피곤하다.

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horse3000 • May 11, 2018, 7:17 AM

홀스삼천

And hiding in houses is better..? Fucking all forms of camping!!!

그리고 집에 숨는게 더 좋아? 망할 모든 형태의 캠핑!

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Falloutguy100 • May 11, 2018, 7:28 AM

폴아웃남

It's different -(0.0)-

You don't have to go in the houses and there's cover in ally-ways and what-not.

그건 달라 -(0.0)-

넌 집안으로 가야만 하지 않다. 골목길이나 그런 것에는 무언가 숨어있다.

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SharkuuPoE • May 11, 2018, 10:08 AM

샤쿠포

id rather have a snake battle than a house fight. in a house battle there is no reason to push outside, and its extremly risky to push inside the house to clear it. more often than not 1 team will be inside and 1 will be outside, not trying to kill each other and just try to heal longer than the other.

dont get me wrong, snake battles are not that much better, but at least there will always be the point where they kill each other. for me the most optimal ending would be a cs aim map with the circle closing in the middle so all teams have to leave cover and kill each other, but i guess that will never be a real thing :D

난 하우스파이트 보다 스네이크 배틀을 하고 싶다. 하우스 배틀에선 아웃사이드를 푸시할 이유가 없고, 집안을 클리어시키려고 푸쉬하는건 너무 위험하다. 한팀이 집안에 있고, 한팀이 밖에 있을 때 더 자주 그런데, 서로 죽이려고 하지 않고, 다른 쪽보다 더 오래 회복하려고만 한다.

날 오해하지 말어, 스네이크 배틀이 저거보다 더 좋다는 건 아냐, 하지만 최소한 그들이 서로를 죽일 수 있는 지점은 항상 있다. 나의 경우 가장 최적의 결말은 카스 AIM 맵이다. 원이 가운데로 닫혀서 모든 팀이 엄폐물을 벗어나야 하고 서로 죽여야 한다. 하지만 현실이 되진 않겠지 :D

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littlefrank • May 16, 2018, 5:18 PM

리틀프랑크

I agree with both of you.

ㅇㅇ 너님 둘다 맞음

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Probably because ending in a giant open field with absolutely zero cover or concealment of any kind is bullshit. Miramar is 90% open fields with zero cover or any way to hide.

Erangle at least has grassy trees, wheat fields and bushes to hide your movement.

This is why Miramar isn't well received. It's much more RNG when it comes to circle and what kind of scope you have.

Edit: I'm getting downvoted and people arguing with me when the OP picture literally proves my point. PUBG Corp knows no one enjoys end circle in empty space with no cover, that's why the programmed the game to favor areas with cover... Which are very clearly hotspots in the OP picture. That's not done on Erangel because that map has cover all over the place.

아마도 큰 오픈 필드에서의 엔딩이라서, 절대적인 제로 엄폐나 어떤 종류의 은폐도 없는, 미라마는 90%가 제로 커버에 숨을 곳이 없는 오픈 필드다.

에란겔은 최소한 우거진 나무들, 밀밭과 덤불 등, 이동을 숨길 곳이 있다.

이것이 미라마가 잘 받아들여지지 않는 이유이다. 그것은 원이 어떻게 오는지와 어떤 스코프를 가지고 있는지에 따라 더 랜덤하다.

편집: OP 사진이 말그대로 나의 주장을 증면할 때, 나는 비추와 나와 논쟁하는 사람들을 얻었다. 펍지 주식회사는 아무도 엄폐물 없는 빈 공간에 있는 엔드 서클을 즐기지 않는다는 것을 안다. 그것이 엄폐물이 있는 선호 지역에서 게임이 되도록 프로그래밍한 이유이다. OP사진에 있는 그 지역은 매우 명백한 핫스팟이다. 그것이 에란겔에는 되지 않았다는 것은, 맵의 모든 지역에 커버가 있기 때문이다.

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JaguarXJ • May 10, 2018, 7:33 PM

재규어XJ

I never understood this argument. There is actually a ton of cover in Mirimar and there always has been. Using rocks and ground cover (hills and burms) is essential because it's very effective. People like to exaggerate the lack of cover in Mirimar but as someone who plays Mirimar exclusively I can tell you there is plenty, you just have to use it in a different way.

난 이 논쟁을 절대 이해할 수 없다. 실제로 미라마에는 엄청난 규모의 커버가 있고, 항상 존재한다. 바위와 지면 엄폐(언덕과 선인장)을 이용하는 것은 필수다. 왜냐하면 매우 효과적이기 때문이다. 사람들은 미라마의 커버 부족을 과장하고 싶어하지만, 미라마만 플레이하는 어떤 이들은, 매우 많다고 말할 수 있다. 넌 단지 다른 방식으로 사용해야만 한다.

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petrokush • May 10, 2018, 9:23 PM

페트로쿠쉬

I prefer Miramar lately TBH. I can't think of an open field with no cover at all (AT ALL=no rocks, trees, ridges) on Miramar. Plenty of those on Erangel.

솔직히 말해서 난 요즘 미라마를 선호해. 난 미라마에 어떠한 엄폐물(돌, 나무, 능선)도 없는 오픈 필드라고 생각할 수 없다. 에란겔에 있는 많은 것들.

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theyetisc2 • May 11, 2018, 1:03 AM

더예티스크투

East of monte nuever, southwest of power grid. That area along the road can be extremely dicey if you're forced to move from the east to the west, as it's just one large valley where anyone on the western side has basically free reign on assblasting you, from sometimes as far away as monte iteslf.

만약 당신이 동쪽에서 서쪽으로 이동하길 강요당한다면, 몬테누에보 동쪽, 파워그리드 남서쪽. 도로를 따라 있는 저 지역들은 익스트림하게 주위사적이다. 그건 단지 하나의 거대한 계곡이기 때문에, 서쪽 사이드의 누군가는 기본적으로 널 마음껏 쏠 수 있는 자유 지역을 가지고 있고, 때로는 몬테누에보에서 멀리 떨어진 곳에서 쏘기도 한다.

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petrokush • May 11, 2018, 2:37 PM

페트로쿠쉬

That's true, but at the same time there's still terrain where if you really need to you can prone to heal/hide. If you're circlefocked and need to run across - yes you're screwed, but that's the case on any map anywhere.

맞아. 하지만 동일하게, 여전히 너가 진짜 원하면, 엎드려서 힐/숨기를 할 수 있는 터레인이 있다. 만약 서클이 고정됐고, 가로질러 뛰어야 한다면, 응. 님 망함. 하지만 그건 어떤 맵이든 마찬가지.

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theyetisc2 • May 11, 2018, 1:01 AM

더예티스크투

Ya, miramar looks more barren, but erengal (in my 600 hour experience) has more areas where the circle can be strait up open fields with VERY little cover.

At least mirimar has burms and shit. It makes for a pain in the ass drving offroad experience, but a much better on foot experience.

그래, 미라마는 더 황당해 보인다, 하지만 에런겔 (나의 600시간 경험에 따르면) 서클이 커버가 조금 밖에 없는 오픈 필드로 갈 수 있는 더 많은 지역들이 있다.

최소한 미라마는 나무와 똥이 있다. 그건 오프로드 운전중 똥꼬 안에 고통에 기여하지만, 걸어서 게임하기엔 더 좋다.

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Gowat5 • May 11, 2018, 3:50 AM

고왙퐈이브

To be fair Miramar is about the same as Erangle, not more or less. There’s times when the circle is over grassy fields with extremely little cover or flat road areas with just as little cover.

공정하게 말해서, 미라마는 에란겔과 거의 같다, 더 좋거나 더 나쁘지도 않고. 거기엔 극도로 엄폐물이 없는 들판 지역이나 엄폐가 조금밖에 없는 평평한 도로를 덮을 때가 있다.

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namkap • May 11, 2018, 1:48 PM

남캅

Absolutely. Understanding and using ground cover is extremely important on Miramar. Once you get good at it, the final circles are awesome.

앱솔루트리, 그라운드 커버를 이해하고 사용하는 것이 미라마에선 진짜 중요해. 니가 그걸 잘하게 되면, 마지막 서클이 굉장할걸.

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Zaipheln • May 10, 2018, 7:16 PM

자이풸른

I find most ending circles on miramar are actually a lot better. Tons of spots have different elevations so you can easily be within 30m of someone, but can't be seen.

I do find the 'middle' circles on erangel better though just because it's still large enough that you can move basically wherever you want and aren't going to be restricted by mountains as much which makes getting into the circle easier. I just hate when you get to the final 3 circles and you have some trees a small hill on the opposite side and an open field in between.

나는 미라마에서 대부분의 마지막 서클이 실제로는 더 좋다는 걸 알아냈다. 수많은 지역들이 다른 높이를 가지고 있어서, 넌 쉽게 누군가의 들키지 않고 30m 이내로 접근할 수 있다.

에란겔에선 '중간' 서클이 더 좋다는 걸 알아냈다. 그거 왜냐면 여전히 원이 크기 때문에 기본적으로 이동하기에 충분하고, 어디든 니가 원하는 것으로 갈 수 있고, 산으로 제한되지 않기 때문에 서클에 더 쉽게 접근할 수 있다. 난 마지막 3번째 서클에 상대방이 나무나 작은 언덕을 먹었고, 나랑 상대방 사이가 오픈 필드일 때가 싫다.

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nineball22 • May 11, 2018, 2:13 AM

나인볼투웬티투

I personally don’t like Miramar for completely stupid reasons (I don’t like the environment, it’s so yellow and brown) but I agree. Last circles in Miramar are cool because you have so many rocks and hills and valleys and shit to use as cover and to play around with. Erangel final circles will fuck you hard if it ends in an open field because there’s no where to hide. Whoever gets the drop in you wins.

난 개인적으로 미라마를 싫어한다. 바보같은 이유 때문에 (나는 그 환경이 싫다. 노랑과 갈색) 하지만 동의한다. 미라마의 큰 서클은 멋지다. 왜냐면 정말 많은 돌과 언덕과 계곡과 똥이 있고, 엄폐물로 쓸 수 있는, 놀 수 있는. 에란겔 파이널 서클은 널 뻑큐할 것이다. 마지막 필드에서 엔딩이 되면, 거긴 숨을 곳이 없기 때문에. 너한테 총을 쏠 누군가가 이긴다.

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Kyle700 • May 10, 2018, 7:42 PM

케일칠백

Miramar is endlessly better than Erangel. Tree battles are not that interesting, whereas using hills and terrain for cover is much more interesting and fair

미마라는 에란겔보다 끝없이 더 좋다. 나무 싸움은 흥미롭지 않다. 반면 언덕과 터레인을 엄폐물로 사용한 전투가 더 흥미롭고 공평하다.

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CarbonCamaroZL1 • May 10, 2018, 9:04 PM

카폰카마로ZL1

I prefer Erangel for the games I just want to drop, find some shit and survive. I tend to run into people less often there due to how many buildings, shacks, etc. there are.

Miramar is more focused on having to go to big towns or small villages to find anything. Less shacks, more open. It's preferred for actual warfare. If I want to drop and kill people, I'd prefer Miramar. It also tends to have better urban combat and mountain combat.

난 게임에선 에란겔을 더 선호한다. 떨어지고 총을 찾고, 생존하고. 나는 사람들이 없는 곳으로 자주 뛰어가는 경향이 있다. 얼마나 많은 건물, 오두막집 등이 있는지에 따라. 거긴 그런게 있다.

미라마는 큰 도시나 작은 마을로 가는 것에 더 집중한다. 뭐든 찾기 위해. 오두막집도 적고, 더 오픈 필드다. 실질적인 전투를 선호당한다. 만약 내가 낙하해서 사람들을 죽이길 원한다면 미라마를 할 것이다. 미라마는 어반 컴팻이나 마운틴 컴뱃을 더 많이 하는 경향이 있다.

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Kyle700 • May 10, 2018, 9:19 PM

케일칠백

I'm sorry, but you have got it totally backward... Miramar is by far the better map for landing out in the open and getting totally kitted. For example, the little section behind San Martin and above power grid, there is 5 god houses as well as a couple shacks and buildings, which is almost more than enough to fully kit out a squad, let alone a duo or one person. Erangel buildings are not nearly as consistent as god houses on Miramar. I'd suggest dropping in a section with one or two godhouses, + one within walking distance. It's way more consistent than Erangel.

미안한데, 넌 완전 퇴보했다. 미라마는 오픈 했을 때나 완전히 갖추어졌을 때나 완전히 최고의 맵이다. 예를 들어, 산마틴 뒤쪽의 작은 구역과 파워그리드 거기엔 5개의 꿀집(god house)이 있다. 게다가 몇개의 판자집과 건물도 있다. 그건 거의 스쿼드가 풀장착하기에 충분한 것 보다 더 많다. 듀오나 솔로는 말할 것도 없고. 에란겔의 건물은 미라마의 꿀집보다 일관성이 없다. 나는 한개나 두개짜리 꿀집에 낙하하는 걸 제안한다. + 아니면 한개는 걸어서 갈 수 있는 거리. 이게 에란겔 보다 더 일관성이 있다.

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overloader1 • May 11, 2018, 8:30 AM

오버로더1

Not sure why you are getting down voted, I play much more Miramar than Erangel, I rarely go into the towns unless I have to, and always get a decent load out.

님이 비추하는 이유를 모르겠네, 난 에란겔보다 미라마를 더 많이 플레이했다, 딱히 타운은 가야하지는 않지만, 진짜 가끔 가고, 항상 괜찮은 장비를 파밍한다.

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•Kyle700 • May 11, 2018, 5:44 PM

케일칠백

God houses and those large barn buildings are really, really good loot buildings. I don't know what about the god houses makes them so strong, but their loot table is far more generous than just about any game in the building, especially on Erangel.

꿀집과 큰 헛간 건물은 진짜 진짜 좋은 파밍 장소다. 난 왜 꿀집이 그렇게 좋은지 모른다. 하지만 그곳의 루트 테이블은 매우 관대하다. 다른 어떤 게임 보다, 특히 에란겔.

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invalid-arguement • May 10, 2018, 9:30 PM

인밸리드아규멘트

Overall though, Erengel has much more backwoods houses.

전반적으로 에란겔은 훠얼씬 많은 퇴보한 집들이 있다.

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•kesesa • May 10, 2018, 9:44 PM

케세사

Which is entirely false if you actually draw up both maps and start counting. Miramar has significantly more buildings and compounda both within towns and out in the open.

그건 완전 거짓이다. 만약 님이 두 지도를 그려놓고 숫자를 세기 시작하면. 미라마는 현저하게 많은 건물과 콤파운드를 가지고 있다. 타운과 오픈 필드 밖 양쪽 모두에서.

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•Kyle700 • May 10, 2018, 9:43 PM

케일칠백

It's not that sparse though. Just found a couple god houses out of a city. One godhosue is frequently enough to fully kit you, two is almost always. Any little shacks around can give you weapons and scopes and armor just as easily as any other room. I just have the exact opposite experience on miramar. It's far easier to land somewhere that has good loot and no people.

그거 듬성듬성은 아니지만. 도시 밖에는 몇 개의 꿀집을 찾을 수 있다. 하나의 꿀집은 흔히 풀 장비 파밍하기 충분하다. 2개면 거의 항상. 주변에 있는 다른 작은 판잡집은 무기와 스코프와 조끼를 준다. 다른 건물의 방과 마찬가지로. 나는 미라마에서 정확하게 반대의 경험을 했다. 미라마에서 사람없고 아이템 잘 주는 곳에 낙하하기가 더 쉽다.

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Ektojinx • May 11, 2018, 1:35 AM

엑토징크스

Spot on IMO. Tree endings are garbage. Stuck behind that tree with them watching ? Youre fucked.

Stuck behind that defy/hill with them watching? Move around it atleast increasing the angle.

내 경험에 스팟해서. 나무 엔딩은 쓰레기. 나무 뒤에 붙어서 그들이 나를 보고 있는데? 뻐큐.

난공불락/언덕에 숨어서 적들이 나를 보고 있어? 옆으로 움직이면 적어도 각은 벌릴 수 있다.

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trey3rd • May 10, 2018, 7:37 PM

트레이서드

There are hills everywhere on Miramar. It's so easy to just run down a little hill to get 100% completely cover.

미라마 도처에 언덕이 있다. 100% 엄폐하려고, 작은 언덕 뛰어내려가기가 매우 쉽다. ───────────────────

FiiSKiiS • May 10, 2018, 7:45 PM

피스키스

This is the most ignorant shit I constantly see on this sub.

Miramar has significantly better cover across it's areas than Erangel does. There are very few places that actually don't have cover on Miramar.

이것이 가장 무식한 똥이다. 내가 이 서브에서 지속적으로 보아온

미라마는 현저하게 좋은 엄폐물을 가지고 있다. 그 지역을 가로지르는, 에란겔보다. 미라마에는 실제로 엄폐가 없는 지역은 매우 적은 장소에 있다.

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Ektojinx • May 11, 2018, 1:38 AM

엑토징크스

I feel like the "no cover crowd" is mainly from the TPP crowd.

In TPP i found trying to judge when you are actually in cover behind a mound is harder than fpp (only played 2 tpp miramar games though compared to 100s of fpp).

Then youve got the retard % that think if it aint a solid above ground object its.not cover. They probably have a .05% winrate and have no idea what they are talking about though.

난 "노 엄폐 징징이"들이 주로 TPP하는 놈들 같다고 느낀다.

TPP에서, 나는 너가 실제로 마운드 뒤의 엄폐물 속에 있을 때 판단하려고 노력하는 것이 FPP보다 더 어렵다는 것을 발견했다.  (오직 미라마 TPP 2판 했다. 그에 비해 FPP는 100판)

그때 너가 % 지체하고 있을 때, 만약 땅 위 오브젝트가 솔리드한 것이 아니라고 생각하고, 엄폐물이 아니고. 그들은 아마도 0.05%의 승률을 가지고, 아무생각도 없이, 그것에 대해서 이야기하고 있는 것이라능.

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FiiSKiiS • May 11, 2018, 2:06 AM

피스키스

Their gripes literally contradict each other.

The same people who bitch that Miramar has no cover are the same ones who it's impossible to traverse because of all hills and mounds.

There are maybe two areas that truly don't have a lot of good, usable cover on the map. The flats going into Impala from the west, and the flats between Pecado and San Martin. And they're both easily passable, if you wrap instead of charging right in. But that requires tactical thinking, something these cats ain't got.

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Ektojinx • May 11, 2018, 2:55 AM

But that requires tactical thinking, something these cats ain't got.

Thats the main reason between 30-40% win rates and the 2-3%. Plenty of complaints on thos sub about rng, weapons, loot being unfair but we have to also deal with that every game and still win.

Shitty aim and forward thinking/good strats get you alot more wins than good aim/terrible strats.

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dirtyploy • May 10, 2018, 7:23 PM

Miramar 1.0 maybe. The new Miramar has buildings within 150m almost anywhere on the map now... They reworked most of the terrain for even more cover.

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FiiSKiiS • May 10, 2018, 7:45 PM

Even 1.0 had cover everywhere. This argument has been stupid from the get go.

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[deleted] • May 10, 2018, 9:27 PM

I'll have to try it to give it another fair shake then. I was never impressed with it even when it was shiney and new though. We'll see.

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djrf • May 11, 2018, 1:10 AM

I think people are downvoting you because you're statement about 90% open with no cover is pretty wrong. especially after they added in a bunch of stuff in previously semi open areas

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[deleted] • May 11, 2018, 1:20 AM

I admit I haven't played the map since they added map features. But there's only been a few days since the map was updated. I'm only speaking from my experience with the map in the past which has been the previous 5 months or so.

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RockyMountainDave • May 11, 2018, 2:07 AM

People are doenvoting you because there is cover all over Miramar. Not in the typical sense like trees or walls but that's because the terrain itself the cover

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NecstNecstNecst • May 11, 2018, 3:50 AM

You’re right, it’s Reddit people are dicks and idiots on here.

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jcaashby • May 11, 2018, 1:29 AM

OP I actually prefer Miramar ....the terrain is your cover. Yes there are open spaces and even those have elevated areas and hay barrels etc lying around.

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morgecroc • May 11, 2018, 2:09 AM

You play 3rd person don't you. This isn't an insult the type of cover in Erangel favours TPP as you can stand behind a tree and see anyone before the get close enough to see behind the tree. On Miramar terrain cover isn't as good as trees for TPP but in FPP it gives you much better concealed movement option even in 'open fields'.

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[deleted] • May 11, 2018, 2:22 AM

No. I'm not a scrub.

I've been playing Battle Royale since it was on ARMA 2. I know what makes a good map in games like ARMA, DayZ, PUBG, etc.

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Beefenstein • May 11, 2018, 7:05 AM

Miramar is 90% open fields with zero cover or any way to hide.

No it isn't. I have far less 'flat field no cover' gameplay on Miramar than on Erangel.

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zagdrob • May 11, 2018, 1:40 PM

Erangel open spaces are really freaking open. The hills are slopes where you're completely exposed in all directions with a few trees and rocks to maybe get pinned down behind.

Even when you've got things to hide behind (haystacks in the fields south of Yasnaya for example) you're completely exposed on three sides.

The other fields - like east of Pochinki - feel like they are less open, but they only give you concealment. There's practically no hard cover and you're going to get domed by anyone with elevation.

Miramar has hard cover everywhere. You just have to be able to use the terrain to your advantage. There are a couple of shitty wide open fields, but even then you've got the tractors and open hay sheds that give you some kind of fighting chance.

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[deleted] • May 11, 2018, 3:32 PM

Ok. I'm honestly sick of defending this... But here I go.

Would you agree that the average distance you can see in Miramar is greater than the average distance you can see on Erangel?

I'd don't have hard data, but I'd say on average the farthest point you can see just running around on Miramar is 1-2km away. Sure there are valleys and hills that obscure portions of the land, but in general you can see very very far.

On Erangel, I'd say the average distance you can see is under 300m. Tree and bush cover on all the hills around you block vast amounts of information you could gather if there was no foliage to block lines of sight. If you hear shots it's not as easy to run to the top of your hill and look down at what's going on. You need to find opening between trees for a sliver of views or get to the edge of the tree line to see any amount if distance. If that tree line doesn't end until the bottom of the hill, well you simply can't see what's in that valley that's less than 500m from you.

This is the difference. I play stealthily. Literally every move I make is to try to not be seen. Not being seen is by far better than having hard cover that protects you from bullets. On Miramar, view distances are so long that this simply isn't viable. There is inevitably always large areas of the map that can see your movement no matter how sneaky you think you are. The fact that your dark body on the light brown sand sticks out so much doesn't help. At least on Erangel your darker body can be masked by the dark greens of the map.

If they took Miramar and filled it with trees, implemented sporatic dust storms that swept across the map, or found another way to offer soft cover for people to move stealthily through, it'd be a great map. But there simply isn't enough soft cover and you're exposed to far too much view distance a large portion of the time.

By the time you get to final circles you have a pretty good idea where almost everyone is because you've been able to see everything for so long. So it's just waiting in your valley hoping circle doesn't push you out into the open where you actually don't have any cover, hard or soft. On Erangel there is ALWAYS a bush or grass to crawl through if your get pushed from the area you're holding.

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Spikebob21 • May 16, 2018, 5:04 PM

Not sure why your being downvoted I mean that's a solid statement. Heres my vote hope you reddit luck gets better

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sh1mba • May 10, 2018, 10:36 PM

grass is now better cover than rocks, ditches, hills and generally mixed terrain.

got it

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[deleted] • May 10, 2018, 10:37 PM

Uh... Yes. Concealment is cover and in a game like PUBG it's probably more important. It's better to never be shot at than it is to be shot at and have something hard to hide behind. Soft cover makes it harder for people to see you meaning less people shoot at you.

The goal of PUBG is to survive. Not win gun fights.

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Vio0 • May 10, 2018, 10:59 PM

Hard cover makes me not die to shots though? What the fuck is wrong with your arguments in this thread.

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KappaMcTIp • May 10, 2018, 8:04 PM

lol just build

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bad-r0bot • May 10, 2018, 2:33 PM

That hotspot on Alcantara... christ. Just get some circles to the north and south of that. Northeast is empty as well below military.

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zendeavor • May 10, 2018, 2:22 PM

There’s also the factor of terrain cover versus building cover. Cities and towns and compounds help games last until true final circles. Miramar terrain cover is useful in mid game but not endgame in last two team scenarios, regardless of which circle you’re in. Erangel terrain cover also tends to offer more in terms of realizing final circle scenarios if only because of the tall grass.

So the real question, what is a final circle according to this data set? Is it the last circle that closed completely before a winner was determined? Is it the last circle that hasn’t finished closing before a win condition is achieved? Is the data strictly limited to games that end in the 9th circle?

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Isgrimnur • May 10, 2018, 7:33 PM

Tall grass offers concealment, not cover.

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zendeavor • May 10, 2018, 7:34 PM

Great, I appreciate your semantic input. The point hasn’t changed, but thank you for your insight.

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ElvenNeko • May 10, 2018, 7:04 PM

Miramar hugely avoids borders, Erangel - only top borders. But all i have to say - i knew it! There is a reason why i almost never see endgame in those cool locations - dumb circle is programmed to avoid those places. And BH of course will once again tell that it's fully random.

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FiiSKiiS • May 10, 2018, 10:27 PM

Bluehole acknowledged changes to zones on Miramar early on because everyone bitched about how hard it was to move around the map. After that, it focused significantly on the center regions and hardly ever overlapped the edges like it does on Erangel.

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mecks0 • May 11, 2018, 1:17 AM

All the northern areas, really.

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ancine • May 10, 2018, 11:02 PM

alcantara seems to be definitely scripted.

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Weis • May 10, 2018, 4:00 PM

Problem with final circles in the corners of Miramar is that the mid game is 99% travelling with no time to loot or fight unless you happened to drop close to the final circle. It's harder to drive across terrain in miramar because of mountains, and the map is bigger, so you can't just zip over there easily like on erangel where you can pretty much drive in a straight line between anywhere on the map with the exception of the rivers.

Corner zones suck. I like fighting in unique areas but getting zone fucked really ruins a game

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AsianPotatos • May 10, 2018, 5:58 PM

Don't think I've ever had a problem with corner circles on miramar, it's probably because I drop places like los leones and san martin (in both cities it's actually surprisingly easy to avoid gunfights if you're like that) the few times I've dropped military or el pozo, and the circle was far I still had enough time to loot up and get to the zone. There was one time where I went military and came out with no (good) loot after looting most of it, but I feel like that's the fault of the loot table rng, not circle.

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jhartikainen • May 10, 2018, 2:06 PM

Yeah, it does look like there could be some weighing towards towns

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FiiSKiiS • May 10, 2018, 7:47 PM

Not really. There were reports early on that Bluehole started weighing the zones after initial release to be more centered because of all the complaining about the map being too big.

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[deleted] • May 10, 2018, 10:05 PM

It's not that much bigger. They are roughly the same size. Just look at the OP photo.

The 'entirety of potential end zones' circle is the same size on both maps. Each is about 5km x 5km circle in the center of the map. Erangel has a roughly evenly distributed circle and Miramar clearly has hotspots in the same size space.

The reason you think Miramar is larger is because you can see much farther. The reason you can see much farther is because there is almost zero tree cover anywhere to block your view of the distance. The additional space Miramar does have over Erangel isn't substantially used. It's some unused space South East of Campo Miltar, some empty space around and west of Trailer Park and there's the prison island that no one goes to.

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DatQuaser • May 10, 2018, 2:47 PM

It's a good thing imo. Final circles on a flat field without cover are the worsts.

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jacob1342 • May 10, 2018, 1:51 PM

Poor Zharki :(

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yehiko • May 10, 2018, 3:59 PM

even circles dont go there

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Jaspersong • May 10, 2018, 5:39 PM

I don't think even God knows about Zharki at this point

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Zockerland99 • May 11, 2018, 8:28 AM

or enable auto walk

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Squidpingvin • May 10, 2018, 3:58 PM

And Kameshki

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kurtcop101 • May 10, 2018, 8:02 PM

I've never gotten good loot from Kameshki, sadly.

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Ronny070 • May 10, 2018, 8:28 PM

Yeah it's sad cauae I like the overall placement of buildings and whatever but the loot in Kameshki is dog shit.

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legimpster • May 10, 2018, 6:59 PM

Zharki has better loot than Kameshki

Source: If I can, I always land Kameshki or Zharki.

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cobrasrock19 • May 10, 2018, 6:08 PM

Kameshki is just as bad

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MaterialScientist • May 10, 2018, 5:00 PM

Zharki, forever alone...

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V4ampp • May 10, 2018, 3:00 PM

still not enough love for zharki stalber and kameshki...

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WestBrink • May 10, 2018, 3:36 PM

Had a stalber final circle once, was an absolute blast, making our way up the hill watching behind for people coming out of Yasnaya.

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LightningTP • May 10, 2018, 5:47 PM

Stalber's southern hillside makes for a great circle. Lots of rocks and trees to find cover. It's pretty common too in my experience.

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wholesomealt3 • May 10, 2018, 6:52 PM

The last game I had with the third circle covering the area around Yas, everyone was already at Stalber fighting lol

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ReSePlay • May 10, 2018, 2:21 PM

every spot on map should have the same chance to be the final circle, each game would be much more different then the other

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bigbishounen • May 10, 2018, 2:32 PM

Assuming the final circle is calculated at the beginning of the game, it would be interesting to include a mechanic that does not allow any final circle location to repeat until all other final circles have been run.

Mind you, there would be a TON of utter shit final circle locations, and some locations, such as in the ocean, would have to be manually excluded. But still, having a final circle repeat only once every several thousand games would be pretty awesome.

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Spamakin • May 10, 2018, 4:16 PM

You could impose limits and restrictions

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bigbishounen • May 10, 2018, 4:35 PM

You would have to, in order to prevent a ton of "swimming circles" (That said, a water finish could be fun on occasion, but not a bunch of them in a row.)

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PeterPredictable • May 10, 2018, 9:06 PM

That's been in the game for almost a year now. An ending circle won't (shouldn't, I'm sure there are bugs) be 100% in the water.

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Sluukje • May 10, 2018, 7:19 PM

those thousand games are played in less than an hour.

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bigbishounen • May 10, 2018, 8:19 PM

I actually would be interested to see how many games ARE played in an hour, per region.

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Sluukje • May 10, 2018, 8:22 PM

That would be a fun stat!

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password34521 • May 10, 2018, 3:41 PM

Nah, that sucked. Getting circles in the water or at that tiny island at the top of Erangal or off to the SE sucked dick. Bridges aren't much better but I haven't seen one of those for a while either.

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ikarli • May 10, 2018, 3:57 PM

I think they lowered chances of having any water inside even more

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trey3rd • May 10, 2018, 7:43 PM

They made it impossible to have a 100% water ending, and I think they included bridges in that. Not sure on the bridge though.

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ithinarine • May 10, 2018, 9:19 PM

It's impossible for circle to be 100% on water anymore. The center of the circle has to be above land, which is why the chances of final circle being by the coast is so low.

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kesesa • May 10, 2018, 9:46 PM

Then the direction the circle will shrink towards would be much more predictable. Conditional probability.

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Incrediblebulk92 • May 10, 2018, 6:12 PM

I don't know if I agree. I like it when the circle decides that everybody on the map needs to scramble north or unit an area of the map I've only been in a couple of times. It makes the round a bit different.

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XeroG • May 10, 2018, 3:05 PM

This is pretty fascinating and reveals some of the underlying mechanics behind the circle. If the circle was truly random (besides the not spawning over water mechanic) you would expect to see an evenly distributed heat map.

Instead, you have a lattice like structure on Erangel and clear "attractors" on Miramar. Its pretty obvious on Miramar that there is a systematic bias for circles ending on high density areas, but the underlying mechanism behind Erangel is less obvious.

Why does the circle have a strong preference for certain points on Erangel but almost 0 circle density at immediately adjacent points? Is the lack of density due to some underlying mechanic or just insufficient data? Very interesting post OP.

EDIT: A commenter below me mentioned that they are probably generating the probability density map from Perlin Noise, which makes sense given that Unreal contains various methods for generating Perlin noise and various computationally efficient variants. That would explain the circle distribution.

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DNRTannen • May 10, 2018, 4:47 PM

Disregarding Miramar, Erangel will be weighted towards certain locations due to the circular nature of each phase avoiding water. Only the centre of each circle dodges water, but that's enough to edge out many locations around the outskirts of the map, by the river and Sosnovka Island.

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XeroG • May 10, 2018, 7:37 PM

That makes sense for the edges of the map, but why is the outcome density so heavily varied in landlocked areas? It would be interesting to see if this was a result of something subtle like the initial position of the circle causing a certain instability in the domain of possible outcomes. Might have to go fire up Matlab for this one.

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TValentinOT • May 10, 2018, 7:45 PM

I'm pretty sure Erangel looks like that because they are using perlin noise to decide where to place the circle.

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XeroG • May 10, 2018, 7:57 PM

Not sure why I didn't think of that, that makes complete sense!

I see now that Unreal has lots of Script Editor nodes that implement variants of Perlin, so its not out of the question they might have used that.

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more_sidechain • May 10, 2018, 6:38 PM

Perhaps there's some bias from match length? Is this showing where the final circle would have been if the game had ended before hand? And does having a house for cover in the final circle allow players to camp for longer?

EDIT: Someone mentioned earlier that in custom games you can encourage final circles to be in towns, so that's probably happening here. I'd still like to know more about how the data was collected, and if it's at all influenced by when the round ends.

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XeroG • May 10, 2018, 7:39 PM

That would actually make a lot of sense. If this only includes final circles when the game actually ends and not what the true final circle, you would have larger circles in areas less cover as data points for the heat map, since everyone kills each other faster in the open.

That would make the density of each location somewhat proportional to the lack of cover. It would also depend on if this website weights the distribution as a factor of the size of the ending circle, otherwise we are back to square 1.

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GammaKing • May 10, 2018, 7:29 PM

Erangel's circles are obviously random, with a weighting towards the middle (I imagine this will be due to how the first circle is placed). Those "gaps" aren't really as significant as they look, I expect the difference between each shade is 1 circle, so areas were mostly hit by 1 or 2 circles.

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kesesa • May 10, 2018, 9:49 PM

If every subsequent circle is completely randomly determined, then there will always be a heavy bias towards the middle.

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bennyh6813 • May 10, 2018, 6:22 PM

You would not expect it to be evenly distributed if it was truly random. Think about this, if you roll a dice 1000 times, are you saying you'd expect an near equal amount of rolls for 1,2,3,4,5,6? You'll almost always find that is not the case, as it is random.

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jhartikainen • May 10, 2018, 6:31 PM

With a sufficiently large sample size you would find it evens out. Whether 9000 is sufficiently large for it to happen here is debatable :)

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XeroG • May 10, 2018, 7:27 PM

if you roll a dice 1000 times, are you saying you'd expect an near equal amount of rolls for 1,2,3,4,5,6?

Yes.

Obviously it would rarely be exact, but it would be exceedingly unlikely to have, say, 200 5s and 10 6s. The roll of a single die is uniformly distributed.

Think about it, the cumulative density function is a discrete sum of the probabilities of each side being rolled. if you were to graph, it would look like a stepwise function with a constant increment at each step. which means each outcome of rolling the die is equally likely. The more trials you have, the closer you get (percentage wise) to a uniform density of outcomes.

What we see on the Erangel map above is a very non-uniform density of outcomes. This could be due to many things. Sampling error, lack of sufficient trials, or the underlying mechanism doesnt choose a truly random position given a certain landmass area to pick from.

Obviously one constraint in the selection of each circle is the location of the previous circle. The next circle must fit entirely within the previous. Whether or not this constraint would lead to the outcome seen above im not certain. I would have to simulate it because intuitively i think it would be more evenly distributed after a certain number of iterations.

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epipepipepipep • May 10, 2018, 1:52 PM

Insufficient data, too small sample size. Must be over 9000

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Penguinsburgh • May 10, 2018, 3:56 PM

Damn I feel like 90% of my miramar games end on some combination of that road around los leones/giant open field below it with me running across it directly towards a mountain with the remaining 15 people in the game on the top

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frggl • May 11, 2018, 11:56 AM

But only halfway up?

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Naga14 • May 10, 2018, 11:33 PM

Yeah I hate that. When you think about it, the most interesting areas in the game are on the edges and never get played.

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HackPlack • May 10, 2018, 3:49 PM

Intresting how alcantara is red

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AdjunctFunktopus • May 10, 2018, 5:46 PM

Yeah, it looks like if you’re playing Miramar and the circle looks to Center up there, you might as well go find a defensible building in town, knowing the circle isn’t going to the areas outside of town.

Same with Prison and Los Higos. Less reason to play the edge if you already know you’ll have to advance into town.

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thorizzle117 • May 10, 2018, 3:39 PM

Am I wrong in saying that these maps should just look like a polka dot shirt with dots spaced throughout the ENTIRE map, including the edges?

Why is so much of each map unused in late game?

Kinda disappointing

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Ideas966 • May 10, 2018, 3:46 PM

I believe it's because each circle has to have at least 50% of its area be in the playable area of the map. So as the circle shrinks it's less and less likely to have 50% of the next playable area be mostly on an edge. Or maybe I'm totally wrong but I think that's how it works?

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Inzanami • May 10, 2018, 5:25 PM

It is 25% of the play area, the diameter is halved so that meants its 1/2*1/2 so 25% of the play area. (I could be wrong about the diameter being half though, correct me if I am).

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kesesa • May 10, 2018, 9:54 PM

Well, if you randomly determine each subsequent circle, then there will always be a bias towards the center. It's just probability. You'd have to manually introduce a bias that favours edges if you wanted a uniform distribution, and which way the circle will shrink would become more predictable.

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idingy • May 11, 2018, 2:25 AM

Yea, you think you want edge circles on Miramar... until you have them and youre running that big map with no car chasing the circle to the edge of the map on the fast side of blue.

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jhartikainen • May 10, 2018, 1:12 PM

Interestingly enough, it appears the areas near the borders of both maps are rarely within the final circle.

The tool I used to make these is available here if anyone wants to play with the data:

http://zomgmoz.tv/pubg/data

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toastjam • May 10, 2018, 9:46 PM

What would be really cool is if you could see a heatmap of the landing spots of chicken dinner winners, even better if normalized by the heatmap of all landing spots.

That would probably start changing the meta though if people could see the objectively best places to land.

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jhartikainen • May 11, 2018, 3:38 AM

Yeah someone suggested this as well. It's an interesting idea so I'm gonna see about adding it, it's just gonna take a while to reprocess the matches since I'm not currently storing the ranking data

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Zaipheln • May 11, 2018, 6:50 AM

It would probably favourite hot spots just because whoever leaves is typically fully geared and some hot spots are center of the map which means you won't have to make a mad dash as often. Also the fact that people are more willing to fly further for hot spots compared to other drops.

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kesesa • May 10, 2018, 9:50 PM

This will naturally be the case if each subsequent circle is randomly determined.

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Bob_Skywalker • May 10, 2018, 2:41 PM

So, what happens when the final circle is over the bunkers west of Prison?

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jhartikainen • May 10, 2018, 2:43 PM

Legal play area is both underground and above ground, it leads to some pretty terrible situations :D

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DNRTannen • May 10, 2018, 4:48 PM

Heal race!

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LAKingsDave • May 10, 2018, 6:50 PM

I saw DrDisRespect end on top there and lost to the guys below who healed more than him and his partner.

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CallMeBigBobbyB • May 10, 2018, 3:53 PM

Poor fucking Zharki no one likes you!

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Asdioh • May 10, 2018, 5:17 PM

I love erangel, but all those open field end circles near places like Gatka and north military are just awful luckfests, unfortunately.

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WackyJacky101 • May 10, 2018, 11:53 PM

This is so cool.

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sevansx420 • May 11, 2018, 1:19 AM

Hey Wacky, I always wondered if the circle placement has anything to do with player locations? Is it all rng? are there preset cycles? Mirimar's small island having 3 very defined locations of final circles located exactly at each location that has any number of buildings makes me think there is definitely some algorithmic decision that determines circle placement.

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jhartikainen • May 11, 2018, 3:35 AM

Thanks :) Would love to hear if you have any ideas on other types of visualizations that might be interesting, there's a ton of data in the telemetry

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more_sidechain • May 10, 2018, 6:35 PM

I don't know how the circles are actually chosen, but it looks as if each circle centre is chosen at random within the previous. Personally, I'd love it if the server would choose the final circle FIRST uniformly from all valid land areas, and work backwards to find the outer circles. Could be tricky, but it'd be great if any part of the map could be the end zone, rather than having favouritism towards the middle.

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imdivesmaintank • May 10, 2018, 6:39 PM

this is exactly what I came here to post and I don't see how it could be any more complicated than what's already done.

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more_sidechain • May 10, 2018, 6:50 PM

Well, if you pick a centre, pick another centre, etc, it's pretty trivial. Finding a suitable circle that fits a smaller one... actually it wouldn't be that hard. Determine the possible circle of new centres that would include the next circle (new radius minus inner circle radius, I think), pick an angle and radius at random (I think you need to square the value for radius for true uniformity), and repeat until you get a valid point with enough land (or time out).

That could lead to a lot of awkward traversals and swimming/boating, but PUBG should be kind of painful and arbitrary.

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wamus • May 10, 2018, 9:39 PM

The problem with this is that you don't want circles to be in the water too much, as it is not fun (we saw this in the first couple of months..).

Putting a weight to it so less of a circle is in water also does not help, as that means any point closer to the water is more likely to be chosen based of the information the players have, and we get a whole different type of metagame.

I think best would be having the 3rd (or maybe 4th) circle randomly prechosen like you suggest, and then have random circles from there. That way the whole map would be used a lot more but the circles don't become too predictable.

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more_sidechain • May 10, 2018, 9:50 PM

I think there would be ways around that, just like there are now (if it is forward-selected). Still, yeah, it could have problems of its own.

A bit of a more far-out solution would be for maps to be endlessly tiling, and join at the edges. No more middle at all! Fog and level of detail could solve issues with the view from the plane, but it's still weird.

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ShadowBanThisCucks • May 10, 2018, 2:50 PM

Could the circles on Miramar be calculated based on loot nodes?

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_Regicidal • May 10, 2018, 7:22 PM

They certainly could be!

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Abipolarbears • May 10, 2018, 6:16 PM

Poor zharki

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CargoDankster • May 10, 2018, 8:24 PM

r/dataisbeautiful

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tim1_2 • May 11, 2018, 11:57 AM

Primorsk is a cool spot for final circles with the city and then the big hill on the eastern side, plus the people that inevitably come whipping in on boats.... Wish it got more circle love.

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Warp__ • May 10, 2018, 2:26 PM

Some more stalber would be very interesting.

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hulksreddit • May 10, 2018, 3:14 PM

I wish there were more ending circles on zharki/kameshki/stalber and trailer park/lake. Apart from zharki and stalber I don't think I've ever been to these places

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ChocolateSunrise • May 10, 2018, 3:19 PM

At least we have the proof that the western side of Miramar has the circle biased against it.

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Ananvil • May 10, 2018, 3:24 PM

Man, I don't think I've ever seen a final circle in Miramar on the outskirts or islands. That'd be fun.

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mkgref • May 10, 2018, 4:25 PM

Is this location of actual circles or this location of people during the final circles?

If it is people location that would explain towns and buildings having much more heat even if this circle only includes a small part of them...people gonna hide there.

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jhartikainen • May 10, 2018, 4:28 PM

The datapoints used are the centers of each final circle from the 9000 or so matches plotted for each map.

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NlNTENDO • May 11, 2018, 6:13 PM

hey! quick question - can you give me a general idea of the difference between a red zone, a yellow zone, and a green zone? like what percentage of matches would a red zone make up?

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jhartikainen • May 11, 2018, 6:15 PM

I'm not sure if I understand the question. Do you mean what percentage as in how long do red zones appear in the match in total? (and I'm guessing yellow and green are colorblind options for blue and white?)

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NlNTENDO • May 11, 2018, 7:21 PM

ya im dumb i meant blue and white. but basically my question is of the circles that show up in red zones, what percentage of the 9000ish matches do they make up?

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jhartikainen • May 12, 2018, 12:57 AM

Ah got it :) That's kinda hard to say - the brightest reds are basically the highest heat values with the yellows being middle ground and blue being coldest (and not even a hint of blue means there's no data points for that area). There's no easy way of getting a specific match count since each datapoint produces a certain amount of heat which then spreads and gradually cools down, and this is added into other heat generated by other datapoints.

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orionrecon • May 11, 2018, 7:32 PM

can you show us a key or legend? i think that would answer his question.

edit: although i'm having trouble wrapping my head around a legend for a heatmap...

edit2: wait., i think if you made the map plot out a grid say 25mx25m grids and plot colors like that, then you could use a legend

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Maderoh • May 10, 2018, 4:34 PM

Trailer park would be amazing

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LeLiterally420 • May 10, 2018, 4:42 PM

just remove the outer layer of miramar already

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Karukash • May 10, 2018, 4:44 PM

Cosmic Background Radiation

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StormforceVII • May 10, 2018, 5:42 PM

I wish they would put some weighting to some of the more interesting and lesser explored parts of erangel such as the zharki area or the NE coast, it has a few cool features that i'd love to play an end game around.

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Xenton • May 10, 2018, 5:57 PM

It would appear, looking at both of these maps, that the circle is certainly effected by player locations.

Or at the very least, it controlled by something other than true RNG, either it has preset locations or it is algorithmically chosen.

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Th_Mafia • May 10, 2018, 6:10 PM

very interesting, looks like the rule is that it 'has to contain some sort of complex before the thing closes all the way'. takign example from the miramar bottom left corner

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pilgrimlost • May 10, 2018, 6:18 PM

Is this actually a traceable component in the API or is there a proxy (like last kill location) used for this?

That could help explain some of the Mirimar city-clumpiness since there could be aggressive engagements in the city before the final circle.

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jhartikainen • May 10, 2018, 6:26 PM

The data used for this is entirely based on white circle location provided in the match telemetry data, which is 1-to-1 with what happened with the circle ingame.

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pilgrimlost • May 10, 2018, 7:11 PM

Very cool. Thanks for the reply.

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GoTo3-UY • May 10, 2018, 6:31 PM

why is this map different from this one? https://samueldev.github.io/Erangel/erangel.html

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jhartikainen • May 10, 2018, 6:35 PM

That looks to have similar patterns on the edges. His sample size is smaller, and he's using different heatmap rendering settings. Looks like his settings make each datapoint produce a wider "spread" of heat, so you get more of the large solid areas.

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Paragusrants • May 10, 2018, 6:46 PM

I'd like to see more circles near the edges of the maps, especially on Erengel so some of these places get some action. Stalber as an example is probably one of the more interesting geographic places on the map.

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bf4truth • May 10, 2018, 6:47 PM

one of the reasons erengal is so much better

mirimar is huge and most of the map is unused

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bpnelson7 • May 10, 2018, 7:44 PM

Erangel has a standard random distribution but Miramar clearly has intentional picks. Yet another reason why even with five times the hours played on Erangel it feels like a more fun and less stale map.

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RaptorF22 • May 10, 2018, 9:28 PM

How did you track this data?

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jhartikainen • May 11, 2018, 3:39 AM

https://documentation.playbattlegrounds.com/en/introduction.html

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UpboatOrNoBoat • May 10, 2018, 10:42 PM

Wow pretty cool that I've experienced one of the few games on the easternmost island in Miramar.

The last 3-4 circles were a clusterfuck of people ramping their vehicles full speed off the shore and swimming across. The first 3-4 squads to cross just camped the shoreline and went fishing. Nobody was lucky enough to find a boat lmao.

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Exploit89 • May 11, 2018, 12:39 AM

It's bad, that at corners of the map usual no any action =(

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lolzor21 • May 11, 2018, 1:21 AM

How did you get this data anyway?

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jhartikainen • May 11, 2018, 3:34 AM

This data comes off the PUBG API https://documentation.playbattlegrounds.com/en/introduction.html

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RockyMountainDave • May 11, 2018, 2:05 AM

Told you people would like it :)

Great job man

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peecee37 • May 11, 2018, 3:20 AM

Campo militar finish is something i've never seen in a few hundreds Miramar games. Never seen campo make it past the second circle.

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TappajaKana • May 11, 2018, 5:09 AM

Alcantara lol

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izofel • May 11, 2018, 5:52 AM

I actually had a zharki circle a while ago. I almost creamed my pants

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-TwiiK- • May 11, 2018, 8:36 AM

I feel like more interesting ending circles is more important for the replayability of this game than new maps. There are so many places on the current maps where I've never fought because the circle is never over them.

There's no reason for the "water rule" in the circle logic after the last swimming changes in my opinion. Enabling circles with a lot of water and little land area will enable the circle to end on much more interesting areas of the map as well as create games where you have varying room to fight compared to every game having virtually the same play area.

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MatthewRoberts1990 • May 11, 2018, 9:32 AM

There are so many areas on the maps I'd love the game to end on but they never do...

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BestXenonEU • May 11, 2018, 9:48 AM

Damn... I love Miramar, but I dislike town finishes :(

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Salmuth • May 11, 2018, 11:53 AM

This Miramar map looks suspicious to me. I don't get how that point in between crater field and San Martin is so red like it's one of the top 10 destination and as thick as a hotspot...

There is a couple of those buildings we all like, but that's it. I go there every now and then and I usually am either alone or with 1 other player. When this is accessible, there is always about 4-5 guys in Porwer Grid which is like a very low spot on this map....

That's all just weird!

EDIT : I need to practice my reading a bit :D

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jhartikainen • May 11, 2018, 12:38 PM

This is based on where the circle ends up, not where players are :)

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Salmuth • May 11, 2018, 12:42 PM

Man, I must be high as a cloud! I read "heatmaps" and assume it's the drop heatmap!

My bad there! haha

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jhartikainen • May 11, 2018, 12:53 PM

If you're curious you can also get a drop heatmap :) Just go to http://zomgmoz.tv/pubg/data and select landing spots as the data source - note that this is a lot of data and will take a while to load and render.

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Salmuth • May 11, 2018, 12:56 PM

Man I'm curious!

Thanks for this, are you the one behind this? If yes, amazing job, if not, thanks for letting us know about it!

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jhartikainen • May 11, 2018, 2:16 PM

yep, I made that :) thanks!

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statypan • May 11, 2018, 4:38 PM

This was posted a few days ago as “Landing heatmap”, then reposted by instgram account pubg_gags incorrectly as Final circle heatmap and now it is back in reddit under wrong interpretation. Interesting.

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jhartikainen • May 11, 2018, 4:51 PM

Nope, those must have been different ones. I generated these images before I posted this (using http://zomgmoz.tv/pubg/data/ , which you may use yourself as well if you're curious)

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ojfkp9qpokao • May 10, 2018, 2:35 PM

Great job, really reveals how non-random the circle placement is.

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Lakkoa • May 10, 2018, 8:26 PM

Pretty surprised there isn't one huge red blob on los leones.